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and one in the garage, where firefighters discovered hannah's mother, christina, facedown under a tarp, next to a crow bar detectives suspect was the murder weapon. according to those same court documents, hannah and her alleged kidnapper, called each other approximately 13 times on the day she disappeared. investigators will not elaborate on those calls but insist hannah is nothing but a victim held against her will. >> thank you. >>> did you know that bear season is just beginning? hikers in and near yellowstone national park know that after two separate attacks by grizzlies in the last 24 hours. tonight the warnings from the experts who know these bears. here's abc's linzie janis. >> reporter: four hikers in yellowstone national park, charged by a mother bear, protecting her cub. two of the hikers were mauled, but all escaped alive. just 50 miles away in idaho, another attack. this time two park workers accidentally woke a sleeping grizzly. it attacked. both men are hospitalized tonight. it is bear season. when bears come out to bulk up before hibernation. in yosemite alone, bear en
and one in the garage, where firefighters discovered hannah's mother, christina, facedown under a tarp, next to a crow bar detectives suspect was the murder weapon. according to those same court documents, hannah and her alleged kidnapper, called each other approximately 13 times on the day she disappeared. investigators will not elaborate on those calls but insist hannah is nothing but a victim held against her will. >> thank you. >>> did you know that bear season is just...
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police say he killed christina and ethan anderson and then took off with christina's teenage daughter hannah. but tonight dimaggio's [ female announcer ] a classic macaroni & cheese from stouffer's starts with freshly-made pasta, and 100% real cheddar cheese. but what makes stouffer's mac n' cheese best of all. that moment you enjoy it at home. stouffer's. made with care for you or your family. people wait for this promotion all year long. and now there are endless ways to love it... from crispy to spicy to savory. [ man ] you cannot make a bad choice. [ male announcer ] red lobster's endless shrimp! as ch as you like, y way you like! you can have your shrimp. and you can eat it, too. [ male announcer ] try our new soy wasabi grilled shrimp or classic garlic shmp scampi. all just $15.99 for a limited time. it's gonna be a hit this year. [ male announcer ] red lobster's endless shri is now! we would neveriss endless shrimp. [ male announcer ] but it won't last forever. so come and sea food differently. [ male announcer ] but it won't last forever. (announcer) at scottrade, our clto mak
police say he killed christina and ethan anderson and then took off with christina's teenage daughter hannah. but tonight dimaggio's [ female announcer ] a classic macaroni & cheese from stouffer's starts with freshly-made pasta, and 100% real cheddar cheese. but what makes stouffer's mac n' cheese best of all. that moment you enjoy it at home. stouffer's. made with care for you or your family. people wait for this promotion all year long. and now there are endless ways to love it... from...
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>> reporter: dimaggio is suspected of killing hannah's 8-year-old brother, ethan, and their mother christina last sunday at his home near san diego, then burning it to the ground. police said dimaggio had an unusual infatuation with hannah. >> i know hannah did say she was a little creeped out when jim did tell her he had a crush on her. >> reporter: the pair vanished, until wednesday, when a horseback rider spotted them in iowa. -- idaho. >> they had backpacks on, they spotted a tent, and so, they were obviously camping in that area. as far as we know, it didn't look like she was being held against her will. >> reporter: dimaggio's car was discovered friday on the edge of rough, inaccessible of mountain terrain of the river of no return wilderness. dimaggio is considered an avid outdoorsman. today, his family had this message -- "we want you and hannah to come home alive. this is a tragedy. you can't turn back the clock, but you can change the future." and tonight, there are more than 200 state and federal cops on the search. they're finding that smoke from nearby wildfires is making visibi
>> reporter: dimaggio is suspected of killing hannah's 8-year-old brother, ethan, and their mother christina last sunday at his home near san diego, then burning it to the ground. police said dimaggio had an unusual infatuation with hannah. >> i know hannah did say she was a little creeped out when jim did tell her he had a crush on her. >> reporter: the pair vanished, until wednesday, when a horseback rider spotted them in iowa. -- idaho. >> they had backpacks on, they...
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police say he killed christina and ethan anderson and then took off with christina's teenage daughter hannah. but tonight dimaggio's sister is throwing a wrench into that investigation. a live report from san diego coming up. [ dad ] in that driveway, is a german-engineered piece of awesome. that i got for 0% apr. good one, dad. thank you, dalton. [ male announcer ] it's the car you won't stop talking about. ever. hurry in to the volkswagen best. thing. ever.vent. and get 0% apr for 60 months, now until september 3rd. that's the power of german engineering. i put in the hours and built a strong reputation in the industry. i set goals and worked hard to meet them. i've made my success happen. so when it comes to my investments, i'm supposed to just hand it over to a broker and back away? that's not gonna happen. avo: when you work with a schwab financial consultant, you'll get the guidance you need with the control you want. talk to us today. reinforced with scratch- resistant glass and a unibody made kevlar strong. okay google now. call my droid. the new droid ultra by motorola. when
police say he killed christina and ethan anderson and then took off with christina's teenage daughter hannah. but tonight dimaggio's sister is throwing a wrench into that investigation. a live report from san diego coming up. [ dad ] in that driveway, is a german-engineered piece of awesome. that i got for 0% apr. good one, dad. thank you, dalton. [ male announcer ] it's the car you won't stop talking about. ever. hurry in to the volkswagen best. thing. ever.vent. and get 0% apr for 60 months,...
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they also say they believe that christina was about six months pregnant with hannah before jim came into their life. so still a lot of questions from the one request, whether or not it happens, we'll wait and see. >> so horrible the family has to deal with this while they wait to bury their family. stephanie, appreciate the reporting. >>> susan hendricks has a "360" news and business bulletin. >>> a military judge sentenced bradley manning to 35 years in prison for leaking classified government documents. he was dishonorably discharged. manning was convicted last month on 20 charges, including violating the espionage act. >>> the white house says beau biden, the son of joe biden successfully underwent a procedure at md anderson medical center in texas and is in quote great shape. biden was admitted to the world renowned cancer facility after feeling weak and disoriented after a family vacation. >>> judge judy is the highest paid star on television, she takes home $47 million a year. >> appreciate it, susan. we'll be right back. [ female announcer ] what if the next big thing, isn't a thi
they also say they believe that christina was about six months pregnant with hannah before jim came into their life. so still a lot of questions from the one request, whether or not it happens, we'll wait and see. >> so horrible the family has to deal with this while they wait to bury their family. stephanie, appreciate the reporting. >>> susan hendricks has a "360" news and business bulletin. >>> a military judge sentenced bradley manning to 35 years in prison...
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they have identified the woman as christina anderson. they say they believe the child is her 8-year-old son ethan. but they have not yet officially confirmed that. the house is where sheriff's captain said investigators found new evidence suggesting the suspect here, dimagio, may have taken off with explosives he made right there at home. police say they believe the suspect is a family friend, abducted the woman's 16-year-old daughter hanna. investigators are involved in an extensive search from dimagio's home east of san diego, down to mexico and up the west coast to canada. now, state police say they are looking into not one but two possible are possible sightings. one in northeast and one in oregon. the state department sheriff's department said they are also taking a very close look at campsites. >> we're going to ask people to look outside also in the rural part of the western u.s. or anywhere, for that matter, he does enjoy camping, he does enjoy the outdoor sports. there is a strong possibility that he has hunkered down somewhere.
they have identified the woman as christina anderson. they say they believe the child is her 8-year-old son ethan. but they have not yet officially confirmed that. the house is where sheriff's captain said investigators found new evidence suggesting the suspect here, dimagio, may have taken off with explosives he made right there at home. police say they believe the suspect is a family friend, abducted the woman's 16-year-old daughter hanna. investigators are involved in an extensive search...
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, who's believed to be driving a blue four-door nissan versa is wanted for murder in the killing of christina anderson whose body was found in his burned out home. authorities suspect he has her hannah and possibly 8-year-old ethan. other charred remains found at the house are consistent with those of a young boy. dimaggio was a friend of the family. last night, at a vigil, hannah and ethan's dad bret anderson made an emotional plea. >> this gentleman that was a friend of ours for a long time has taken everything. hannah will come back and ethan and tina i love you both. we all love you. and i know everybody is here for support of all three of them. i want to thank you all. god bless. >> you might imagine the story is unfolding fast. paul is joining us from san diego with the latest. the spotting of the vehicle. what do we know about this, paul? >> well, anderson, we know that oregon state authorities issued a statement saying, and they are hedging terms that first they believe the car was spotted near alturist, california in the northeast corner of the state and it was going northbound. then
, who's believed to be driving a blue four-door nissan versa is wanted for murder in the killing of christina anderson whose body was found in his burned out home. authorities suspect he has her hannah and possibly 8-year-old ethan. other charred remains found at the house are consistent with those of a young boy. dimaggio was a friend of the family. last night, at a vigil, hannah and ethan's dad bret anderson made an emotional plea. >> this gentleman that was a friend of ours for a long...
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that therapist never mentioned christina's name or eaten. the eaten the-year-old boy beaten to death and there are millions of americans that have traumatic childhoods and didn't go out and plans murders and deaths. brett is so upset by what different people are saying about this whole case. that are saying that hanna may have run away with this guy. it is really bothering this father who has had his heart ripped out, and went to a memorial tonight for his wife and 8-year-old son and the focus is on catching this guy, not making excuses for him. if he was really bothered by the suicides, why didn't he kill himself and end the pain? he is obsessed with this girl. he murdered her mother and 8-year-old brother and took the off with this young girl. he's a pedophiled and planned it. he bought camps gear and the main thing is to get to him before he hurts hanna and the one thing that will keep brett, the father going, the one thing he's desperate for is to get this girl back, get her into therapy, treatment, keep her away from the media and start
that therapist never mentioned christina's name or eaten. the eaten the-year-old boy beaten to death and there are millions of americans that have traumatic childhoods and didn't go out and plans murders and deaths. brett is so upset by what different people are saying about this whole case. that are saying that hanna may have run away with this guy. it is really bothering this father who has had his heart ripped out, and went to a memorial tonight for his wife and 8-year-old son and the focus...
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we've seen a family photo, you with christina who died in the cabin fire. hannah, ethan. there it is right there on the couch with all of you, including dimaggio. he was really close to this family, wasn't he? >> he was. he definitely was. >> looking back, andrea, was there anything -- was there any clue that you now could discern that he could perhaps do something like this? >> no, not at all. he seemed like a sweet guy, nothing out of the ordinary. >> so what was he like beyond being a sweet guy? >> i only met him that one time, and that was about two years ago. he was just -- he was fun. you know, he was very interactive with everyone. >> do you have any clear picture from the authorities in san diego what actually happened in that cabin, how the fire was set, what may have happened before the fire? >> no, i do not. >> no inside information on that? >> no. >> if dimaggio or your niece is watching you right now, what would you want to say to them? >> hannah, be strong, run. get out of there. we will find you. we love you, baby. >> andrea, thank you very much for taking
we've seen a family photo, you with christina who died in the cabin fire. hannah, ethan. there it is right there on the couch with all of you, including dimaggio. he was really close to this family, wasn't he? >> he was. he definitely was. >> looking back, andrea, was there anything -- was there any clue that you now could discern that he could perhaps do something like this? >> no, not at all. he seemed like a sweet guy, nothing out of the ordinary. >> so what was he...
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according to a search warrant, the bodies of christina anderson and the family dog were discovered in dimaggio's deta detached garage. inside the house, the remains of ethan anderson. according to the warrant, phone records showed that hannah anderson and dimaggio called each other about 13 times before their phones were turned off the day she was kidnapped. today, a coroner said an autopsy shows that dimaggio was shot at least five times. he was killed by the fbi tactical agent after a manhunt. tonight we know why hannah anderson didn't try to escape. he would have killed me. that's what hannah said in her first public interview in an online chat room. she fielded questions online posting about her mom and brother and what happened the night that dimaggio killed them. her openness has stunned some, but she the a 16-year-old girl doing what teenagers often do. casey wian reports. >> reporter: 16-year-old hannah anderson is sharing details about her kidnapping on social media. she fielded questions on a site about her abduction by james dimaggio. a user asked, did you want to do with d
according to a search warrant, the bodies of christina anderson and the family dog were discovered in dimaggio's deta detached garage. inside the house, the remains of ethan anderson. according to the warrant, phone records showed that hannah anderson and dimaggio called each other about 13 times before their phones were turned off the day she was kidnapped. today, a coroner said an autopsy shows that dimaggio was shot at least five times. he was killed by the fbi tactical agent after a...
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sad for the loss of christina and ethan. it is a tragedy. but as far as hannah being recovered, that was a good day for law enforcement all over the country. and i thank you again, the media, for all your help helping us locate her. last question. [ inaudible ] >> i don't know. [ inaudible ] >> i have no idea. >> any information about the father -- >> no. [ inaudible ] >> i think there will be ways, with any new technology there are always ways to improve it. i think it worked. one of the things i am aware of for my own alert i got on my iphone, the alert pops up, then after you read it, it is gone so you can't just go back in like you would a text message and look at it again to determine what the license number was if you would see the car. those are some of the things they're working onto make it retrievable in your iphone or smart phone. so if you think you see something, you can refresh your memory of what you saw. with that, thank you very much for being here. appreciate it. >> all right. the san diego sheriff's department concluding t
sad for the loss of christina and ethan. it is a tragedy. but as far as hannah being recovered, that was a good day for law enforcement all over the country. and i thank you again, the media, for all your help helping us locate her. last question. [ inaudible ] >> i don't know. [ inaudible ] >> i have no idea. >> any information about the father -- >> no. [ inaudible ] >> i think there will be ways, with any new technology there are always ways to improve it. i...
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now, those children's mother, christina anderson, was found dead sunday in a burned home that belonged to dimaggio. along with the body of a child who has not been identified. "outfront" at the san diego sheriff's office, i want to find out how this could have happen, paul. first of all, we're talking about these bodies that this happened on sunday. do police have any leads about where dimaggio and has nota and ethan might be? >> no, they do not. as we speak, this has been expanded to a nationwide search. federal authorities involved, including the fbi and u.s. marshals and of course, san diego county detectives. one thing at play here, the mexican border, extremely close to the town where dimaggio lived so they've expanded it well beyond just this county and are looking for him all over the united states. if you think about the time line, if they found his house burning at about 6:00 sunday night, he now has had two days to drive away in what they describe as a blue nissan versa with california plates. as you pointed out, they issued an amber alert for that vehicle. >> so i guess if t
now, those children's mother, christina anderson, was found dead sunday in a burned home that belonged to dimaggio. along with the body of a child who has not been identified. "outfront" at the san diego sheriff's office, i want to find out how this could have happen, paul. first of all, we're talking about these bodies that this happened on sunday. do police have any leads about where dimaggio and has nota and ethan might be? >> no, they do not. as we speak, this has been...
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. >> reporter: the body of the children's mother, 42-year-old christina anderson was found on sunday night inside dimaggio's burning home. investigators believe dimaggio set the fire. deputies found the body of a child who has not been identified. the case leading to california's first statewide amber alert monday night. roadsides calling motorist attention to the nationwide alert. investigators anxious to catch a break. >> it's safe to say he's a dangerous person. armed or not it would be safe to assume he is armed. we are asking members of the public who may believe they see him, don't attempt to contact or oh detain him. just call 911. >> reporter: investigators now updating pictures of the kids and the alleged kidnapper. even a mock-up of a bald james dimaggio in case he shaved his head to disguise his appearance. investigators say he was in a blue nissan versa. he may have changed the car by now. also changing his appearance and the appearance of 16-year-old hannah. if 8-year-old ethan is with them, his appearance may be changed as well. kate? >> miguel, thank you very much for
. >> reporter: the body of the children's mother, 42-year-old christina anderson was found on sunday night inside dimaggio's burning home. investigators believe dimaggio set the fire. deputies found the body of a child who has not been identified. the case leading to california's first statewide amber alert monday night. roadsides calling motorist attention to the nationwide alert. investigators anxious to catch a break. >> it's safe to say he's a dangerous person. armed or not it...
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that of 44-year-old christina anderson. said to be a close platonic friend of dimaggio's and also the remains of a child. one law enforcement telling me that these remains are not inconsistent with those of an 8-year-old. they have not found, so far, the daughter. she is 16-year-old hannah. she is said to be 5'7" tall, 115 pounds. and an amber alert in california has been issued throughout the state. now that this is a nationwide search, what they are looking for is the suspect's car. a blue versa. and it has california plates. the suspicion here, he murdered his close friend. it is said he knew this family for a long time. the children since at least childhood. and they are looking throughout the area and throughout the west right now for james dimaggio. >> san diego county sheriff's office has released this picture that we're showing our viewers right now. this amber alert that was sent out overnight, how is that impacting the search? >> reporter: so many people received it. they want everyone in the state knowing dimaggi
that of 44-year-old christina anderson. said to be a close platonic friend of dimaggio's and also the remains of a child. one law enforcement telling me that these remains are not inconsistent with those of an 8-year-old. they have not found, so far, the daughter. she is 16-year-old hannah. she is said to be 5'7" tall, 115 pounds. and an amber alert in california has been issued throughout the state. now that this is a nationwide search, what they are looking for is the suspect's car. a...
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we're sad for the lost of christina and ethan. it's a tragedy. but as far as hannah being recovered, that was a good day for law enforcement all over the country. and i thank you again, the media, for all your help in helping us locate her. with that i will -- last -- >> reporter: [ inaudible ]. >> i don't know. >> reporter: [ inaudible ]. >> i have no idea. >> reporter: [ inaudible ]. >> no. >> reporter: [ inaudible ]. >> i think there will be ways with any new technology, there are always ways to improve it. i think it worked. one of the things i'm aware of from my own alert i got on my iphone is that the alert pops up and then after you've read it, it's gone so you can't just go back in like would you a text message and look at it again to determine what that license number was if you see the car. i think those are some of the things they're working on, to make it retrievable in your iphone or smartphone, so if you think you see something, can you refresh your memory of what you saw. with that, thank you very much for being here. appreciate it
we're sad for the lost of christina and ethan. it's a tragedy. but as far as hannah being recovered, that was a good day for law enforcement all over the country. and i thank you again, the media, for all your help in helping us locate her. with that i will -- last -- >> reporter: [ inaudible ]. >> i don't know. >> reporter: [ inaudible ]. >> i have no idea. >> reporter: [ inaudible ]. >> no. >> reporter: [ inaudible ]. >> i think there will be...
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police also say they found a crowbar and what appeared to be blood on the ground next to christina anderson's body. he set his house on fire and kidnapped the couple's 16-year-old daughter. he spoke with her 13 times on the phone earlier that day. the fbi rescued anderson on saturday and killed dimaggio during the confrontation. an idaho coroner says he was shot at least five times. >> as for my daughter, the healing process will be slow. she has been through a tremendous, horrific ordeal. >> reporter: now home, anderson has quickly taken to social media to help cope with her pain. the first glimpse we're getting of her after the ordeal. she writes, god gives his toughest tasks to the strongest soldiers. she also posted this picture of her mother and brother writing, my two beautiful angels. she dedicated this post to them. i'll meet you again. rest in peace. the posts hit the social media sphere three days after he is rescue. >>s that 16-year-old who is traumatized. she's not thinking sometimes in a numb state you're doing things that you don't really consider the consequences. >> reporter:
police also say they found a crowbar and what appeared to be blood on the ground next to christina anderson's body. he set his house on fire and kidnapped the couple's 16-year-old daughter. he spoke with her 13 times on the phone earlier that day. the fbi rescued anderson on saturday and killed dimaggio during the confrontation. an idaho coroner says he was shot at least five times. >> as for my daughter, the healing process will be slow. she has been through a tremendous, horrific...
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i know you've got the body of christina anderson, 44, and apparently blunt force trauma, a crowbar was involved there. also they found the body of a child there. i know that they have not identified. it could be the son, ethan. but if you could, captain, explain the relationship between dimaggio and his apparent girlfriend, 16-year-old daughter. >> well, the relationship with dimaggio and the family has gone on over the years. there is a platonic relationship with the mother and the father and so he has known the kids since they were quite small. we're getting information from a lot of different sources that there may have been an unusual infatuation recently between dimaggio and hannah. so we're looking at that. that has not been confirmed. that is certainly part of the profile that we're trying to put together of what's happening here to make some sense out of everything. >> steve: you were very careful in describing the relationship of the family. you're right, it was a platonic relationship apparently with the mother and now who knows what's going on. once again, if you would, capt
i know you've got the body of christina anderson, 44, and apparently blunt force trauma, a crowbar was involved there. also they found the body of a child there. i know that they have not identified. it could be the son, ethan. but if you could, captain, explain the relationship between dimaggio and his apparent girlfriend, 16-year-old daughter. >> well, the relationship with dimaggio and the family has gone on over the years. there is a platonic relationship with the mother and the...
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i think christina sees me listening to that kind of music with the kids it is a thumb to the eye. >> do you think it is really loud? >> it is like speed metal. any music that is making a child inherently praised -- big purple dinosaurs. barney. big hugs. i love you. you all know it. >>> let's move on. when we come back olympic athlete and murder suspect oscar pistorius back in court in south africa now charged with killing his girlfriend. a trial date has been set. we'll take you through the charges and the reaction. >>> plus lindsay lohan sitting down with oprah winfrey. we'll tell you what the troubled actress had to say. ♪ norfolk southern what's your function? ♪ ♪ hooking up the country helping business run ♪ ♪ trains! they haul everything, safely and on time. ♪ tracks! they connect the factories built along the lines. and that means jobs, lots of people, making lots and lots of things. let's get your business rolling now, everybody sing. ♪ norfolk southern what's your function? ♪ ♪ helping this big country move ahead as one ♪ ♪ norfolk southern how's that f
i think christina sees me listening to that kind of music with the kids it is a thumb to the eye. >> do you think it is really loud? >> it is like speed metal. any music that is making a child inherently praised -- big purple dinosaurs. barney. big hugs. i love you. you all know it. >>> let's move on. when we come back olympic athlete and murder suspect oscar pistorius back in court in south africa now charged with killing his girlfriend. a trial date has been set. we'll...
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>> we understand it was a platonic relationship that went back many, many years with bret and christina anderson, and that he had known the children, ethan and hannah, as they grew up. so that was our understanding at the onset. we are working with information that we have received fromtness some sort of an unusual infatuate with her in the very recent history. so we're still looking at that. we're looking at a lot of different information that we are receiving. >> we also understand that we believe you have identified his car, it was found stripped of the license plates, covered in brush of some kind, have you been able to get inside the car and look for evidence? >> yes. we're in the car. we're vetting the evidence now. we have our investigators out there, our evidence techs, as well as evidence techs and investigators from the jurisdiction that's out there. >> there was some speculation that he may have booby-trapped the car with explosives. was that true? >> it turned out not to be the case, but because of our heightened awareness over the week of what we believed he was capable of
>> we understand it was a platonic relationship that went back many, many years with bret and christina anderson, and that he had known the children, ethan and hannah, as they grew up. so that was our understanding at the onset. we are working with information that we have received fromtness some sort of an unusual infatuate with her in the very recent history. so we're still looking at that. we're looking at a lot of different information that we are receiving. >> we also...